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[Discussion] Autism Non-diagnosis
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She does not turn a blind eye as is expected of her at one point with a close colleague over a complex story arc with moral and justice related dilemmas.

There are other times where politeness and gratitude are expected but not given and the only reason she can function still within this environment is because of her boss who is able to accommodate and privilege Saga over others in the work force.

The reason is because she has such amazing penetrating insights which far surpass other detectives- but she has serious social handicaps which come with them.

Given the nature of the crime her colleague commits (revenge against the killer of his son while he’s in jail) - the response is one that actually seems to show her colleague as being in the right, he is as good as Saga sometimes and has the same form of understanding as her boss towards her, but he is from another police force, which is where the show gets its title - the bridge is the border between Sweden and Denmark.

She alienated herself by convicting him. So when her boss dies, her friend is jailed, she is completely at a loss and after some confusion over her family life in the past, a possible wrong conviction of her father and mother and the suicide of her sister which could be due to Saga misreading a situation - she becomes a suspect and joins the hunt for a mans family, the man is her new colleague from Denmark, who has been on drugs for years, hallucinating that his wife and family are at home with him and he intentionally seeks Saga out to help him find his family.

She is a contradictory character and it’s interesting because how much we can say a lack of empathy and social skill is a matter of disorder or ones own unique way of expressing and experiencing in certain roles with various enabling agents, is hard to say.
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(11-21-2017, 12:18 PM)Ontical Wrote: She is a contradictory character and it’s interesting because how much we can say a lack of empathy and social skill is a matter of disorder or ones own unique way of expressing and experiencing in certain roles with various enabling agents, is hard to say

Very hard to say indeed.  I was thinking today that even saying someone is contradictory could be a mistake.  All we have is their actions to guide us in making that determination and our perspective on what made the person act in that way.  To the person themselves they may not seem contradictory at all since they are privy to the thought process that lead to those actions.  If anything all we can say about a person is they "seem" to be that way.
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(11-21-2017, 01:33 PM)notathoughtgiven Wrote: I was thinking today that even saying someone is contradictory could be a mistake. 

I think you are onto something there. Common sense can be 'in the way' when we try to understand the mind of someone else - there's no real reason to think anyone can be fully coherent anyway.
 
(11-21-2017, 01:33 PM)notathoughtgiven Wrote: To the person themselves they may not seem contradictory at all since they are privy to the thought process that lead to those actions.  If anything all we can say about a person is they "seem" to be that way.

Hence why psychology and philosophy of mind have inherent limitations when trying to describe/speculate what is going on.
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(11-21-2017, 05:13 PM)Ontical Wrote: here's no real reason to think anyone can be fully coherent anyway

It wouldn't be in their best interest if they where that way.  Considering all things that might have to be considered in any choice we make, our conspicuous mind would be overloaded trying to sort through them and make a coherent decision. 

We would be like a computer whose memory is too low for all the software and data that needs to be loaded.  Always swamping to the hard drive to make room for the next task.  Happens too much the computer seems to be locked up.
 
(11-21-2017, 05:13 PM)Ontical Wrote: Hence why psychology and philosophy of mind have inherent limitations when trying to describe/speculate what is going on.

Much like statistics.  The only problem is people tend to forget those inherent limitations and accept what is given as the truth without any more consideration.  At best they are tools to help us understand and know another person.
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(11-21-2017, 11:46 PM)notathoughtgiven Wrote: Considering all things that might have to be considered in any choice we make, our conspicuous mind would be overloaded trying to sort through them and make a coherent decision. 

I see the Understanding Nietzsche course has made a mark there. Smile
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(11-22-2017, 09:35 PM)Socrates Wrote: I see the Understanding Nietzsche course has made a mark there. Smile

Not that my conscious mind is aware of right now Tongue LOL
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